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2020 BNP Paribas Open...ATP 1000...Indian Wells, CA USA
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I cannot wait to watch Fafa Nadal manage his own TOWELS! The only player on tour who requires two towels in the back of the court. He's special...really special. No extra time on the clock either!don_budge
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BNP Indian Wells taking some action is good news, whether it's adequate is debatable:
Most are for protecting staff, which is important. Cleaning is about the only thing aimed at protecting attendees: "All common areas throughout the facility will be cleaned daily with an antiviral application"
BNP should clean stair railings, which get touched repeatedly by most everybody, multiple times during the day.
Food vendors' practices aren't remotely adequate. Again, gloves protect them (good), but having thousands repeatedly touch condiments, utensil dispensers was unacceptable, is worse now.
Prior bathroom maintenance wasn't good, is completely inadequate in the face of novel coronavirus. Need to constantly use antiseptic wipes on handles, fixtures, doors.
We shall see.
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Originally posted by johnyandell View PostYou can't get it from Tennisplayer!
This thing is getting serious. I do not remember ever seeing an event canceled under similar circumstances. I had a miserable cold a couple of weeks ago...nearly one hundred percent recovered from. My wife had it twice as bad...I thought I was living with a barking seal she was coughing so bad. She didn't sleep for seven or eight nights. Oddly enough, in all of the coverage I haven't heard a first hand account of anyone who has had it. Not even second hand. Very little information out considering the size of the problem. There seems to be a lot of media hype. Canceling this event seems a bit extreme but then they have all of the information.
They are looking into rescheduling according to one article that I read. Miami must be on the edge as well. I believe they canceled some festival down there. In the gym I am wiping and rewiping. Washing and rewashing my hands. Everyone else seems to be doing the same thing. We must look really funny. All of a sudden concerned with micro hygiene.don_budge
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Originally posted by don_budge View Post
Oddly enough, in all of the coverage I haven't heard a first hand account of anyone who has had it.
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I had to read the press release 4 times last night to make sure I was understanding it properly. Indian Wells gets cancelled...or postponed. I thought it was a joke. Pathetic, knee jerk reaction to widespread media led panic.
One person...yes, one person in Coachella Valley was diagnosed with it, so they scrap an event that would bring millions in revenue and entertain millions more around the world.
We need to treat this like the flu and everyone take personal responsibility for that but panicking isn't going to help.
Kyle LaCroix USPTA
Delray Beach
SETS Consulting
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This epidemic is serious and the entire tennis season is at jeopardy. There 'May" be no French Open, and I'd guess likely no Italian Open this year. France just banned all events of 1,000 people or more. Italy has closed the entire country's borders to non-essential travel. The Miami Open just announced it WILL be held, but "Florida Health Department had advised all individuals traveling internationally to self-isolate for 14 days", before revising it down to match fed guidelines.
Respectfully, the BNP Indian Wells shut down is not about one person in that county, it's about 500,000 traveling to that area and being in close quarters. Remember, over 3,600 Americans died from H1N1 in, was it 2009? And while we don't know for certain the severity of Covid-19 in large part because of extremely poor testing in US, Italy and Iran, the Covid-19 virus is both far more communicable and likely far more lethal than H1N1. The main reason to curtail large events is to "spread the curve" because the virus is so highly communicable. Without action, US Hospitals will be treating people in parking lot tents (see the red bell-jar curve from the CDC/Economist), and that will mean more deaths from many causes. The nearest hospital to me in Silicon Valley went through 25,000 masks in two days. Because growth is exponential, every infection avoided now, means many fewer in a month, or two, helping out healthcare system cope. Fingers crossed.
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It's a tricky one for governing bodies and governments around the world. Hopefully it will all turn out to be what Klacr suggests: overreaction and a big fuss about not a lot. In a place like Indian Wells where great swathes of the population are pottering around on zimmer frames you can understand why the event was cancelled. Some poor sod is going to be carrying the buck if a 3000 pensioners get wiped out.
I have a hacking cough and sore throat as I speak, had it for two weeks. It's bronchitis and nothing more, but I can tell you I have plenty of room around me wherever I go at the moment. One cough and everyone scats.
Exponential growth is lethal in a situation like this. No wonder business men and financiers have been banging on about it all these years. It's the route to owning large sections of the world.
I just wonder whereabouts in the calendar there is scope to reschedule Indian Wells. Just imagine if there is no FO and Wimbledon or US Open? Roger could end up the GOAT yet by default just when it looked like he might get equalled or overtaken. How whacky would that be!Stotty
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Originally posted by klacr View PostI had to read the press release 4 times last night to make sure I was understanding it properly. Indian Wells gets cancelled...or postponed. I thought it was a joke. Pathetic, knee jerk reaction to widespread media led panic.
One person...yes, one person in Coachella Valley was diagnosed with it, so they scrap an event that would bring millions in revenue and entertain millions more around the world.
We need to treat this like the flu and everyone take personal responsibility for that but panicking isn't going to help.
Kyle LaCroix USPTA
Delray Beach
SETS Consulting
We cannot depend upon China for anything anymore. Donald Trump is absolutely correct in his posture towards the Chinese. Any questions about American security are going to have to be resolved partly as a result of this virus. We cannot afford to let anyone have a strangle hold on us in anything. The Chinese at present do have a multi-dimensional strangle hold on us on many levels. The result of bad management in American government in the past. What were they thinking?
Better to err on the side of caution. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure at this point. The impact of the media cannot be underestimated in any informational issues at this point going forwards. The coverage of this global event has been shockingly bad. This is all becoming eerily reminiscent of that most interesting of novels written way back in 1947 by George Orwell...!984.don_budge
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