Racket path is similar. Sampras's toss a little more to left. Stance is a 3/4 Mac. Fed is a 3/4 Sampras.
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Originally posted by johnyandell View Post
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Well, I've worked on serve a lot during lockdown, using video and Pocket Radar to see what really works. I feel I've made a few changes. First, I've lowered the toss and eliminated the hanging about in trophy position. Basically I've changed the rhythm and keep the whole motion moving all the time, no pauses. Second, and this was quite a revelation, I'm keeping more separation between the racquet and body during the drop and in the initial upswing. Basically I'm keeping the forearm at a near right angle to the upper arm. What this seems to do is produce maximum racquet head speed when the shoulder internally rotates because the racquet head is as far away from the axis of rotation (along the upper arm) as it's possible to be. It's kind of obvious really, but the first time I managed to do it, the ball really popped. Third, I'm keeping the racquet arm elbow higher in the trophy position - about 90-100 degrees from line of trunk. I don't know why this helps, but it definitely does.
(And I think I've nearly read all the Past Issues now)
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BTW, the reason I posted the above is not to claim how great my serve is (it isn't), but to share my experience that small changes to a serve action that seemed OK and in many ways already included all the elements that we read about on TennisPlayer can make big differences. The information is there in the serve articles on the site, but sometimes the one gem your particular serve needs is only a sentence or two, and easy to overlook. So keep reading and keep experimenting. Once I get back to competition, I don't think I'll be able to play around as much as I have these last few months.
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Originally posted by glacierguy View PostBTW, the reason I posted the above is not to claim how great my serve is (it isn't), but to share my experience that small changes to a serve action that seemed OK and in many ways already included all the elements that we read about on TennisPlayer can make big differences. The information is there in the serve articles on the site, but sometimes the one gem your particular serve needs is only a sentence or two, and easy to overlook. So keep reading and keep experimenting. Once I get back to competition, I don't think I'll be able to play around as much as I have these last few months.don_budge
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Thanks - I agree, a video is required! But in the meantime, and to demonstrate my sad obsession, here is a still in which I was looking at angles... Also that's my lockdown setup, serving down the lawn into a children's football goal.You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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Some might refer to it as obsession but I prefer to think of it as "fascination". I get your drift glacierguy. What a great thing to ponder in a lockdown situation. This type of mental activity keeps you from going bonkers. Mental gymnastics. The photo looks as if you are getting all of your ducks in a row...all of your vectors lined up. I have a good feeling about the video from what you've said.don_budge
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don_budge, you are right - I am fascinated by the serve. Here are two videos of my current effort, a real-time and a 1/8th slow motion. It's on my lawn, and I'm simulating a serve from the ad side. My left foot is parallel with the imaginary baseline. The camera is a few feet inside the baseline to capture the separation between racquet and trunk during the drop. This serve was about 95mph on the Pocket Radar (I've been protecting a slight elbow niggle).Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
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Originally posted by glacierguy View Postdon_budge, you are right - I am fascinated by the serve. Here are two videos of my current effort, a real-time and a 1/8th slow motion. It's on my lawn, and I'm simulating a serve from the ad side. My left foot is parallel with the imaginary baseline. The camera is a few feet inside the baseline to capture the separation between racquet and trunk during the drop. This serve was about 95mph on the Pocket Radar (I've been protecting a slight elbow niggle).don_budge
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Thanks don_budge. I remember you telling me to "go after it" a bit more, and toss in front. You were right. I think through watching lots of slow-motion video of the top guys I had sort of missed that final explosion and was being a bit pedestrian. That's why I included the real-time video as well as slow-motion. I didn't like the toss in my video either - too high!
The water in the background is Loch Slapin on Skye (it's the sea, but a sea loch, which is just a narrow body of water, a bit like a fjord).
Practising on the lawn has been pretty good. You can't bounce the ball, and you can't see how your serve bounces off the court, but when I did get back on a tennis court a few weeks ago, I hit my first dozen serves straight into the corner of the ad box.
I am back to civilisation (and tennis courts) in a couple of weeks and we'll see how the serve stands up. I think I have now felt what I want to be doing on a few occasions, and will strive to get that feeling more often! Thanks for your encouragement. (I have been reading your golf progress with interest, but am largely clueless on that subject.)
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Here’s a still from a video taken this morning. It's the frame in which the ball pancakes at contact. Should my arm be more vertical? I think my arm to trunk angle looks OK, so if "yes", does that mean that my trunk should be leaning more to the left? I think my arm to racquet angle is OK, but should whole body unit be 10-15 degrees over to left? I'd be happy to receive some advice. (It was a beautiful morning in Fife.)You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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