I could have made the volley he missed. Says something about the game's decline away from the net. Hey, Delbonis, work on your volley and maybe next time you will win!
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Roger Federer and the Racquet Switch...
Originally posted by klacr View PostYou call it generous, I call it being respectful.
People jump off and on the bandwagon like fleas on a dirty terrier. That's there prerogative. I get it.
Kyle LaCroix USPTA
Boca RatonThe saying goes that a bad workman blames his tools but Roger Federer refused to pin a shock defeat in Hamburg on his new racquet.
I guarantee you one thing about the process Roger Federer is going through in his switch of racquets...he doesn't give a hoot about the loss to Federico Delbonis. Federer at this point in his career has bigger things on his mind than what he considers an inconsequential loss to the 65th ranked player in the world. He's looking at the big picture. He regards this tournament as a petri dish...an experiment and he was only interested in the results. The loss was of no consequence whatsoever. We have seen him lose "bigger" matches recently where he apparently wasn't overly concerned. Perhaps the loss at Wimbledon was an epiphany of sorts...but thank God he is switching racquets. Albeit too late. The damage has been done to his career.
Not enough can be made of this switch of equipment and I only wish that one journalist had the balls or the acumen to ask the right questions and put this question into a historical perspective. It's too much to ask these days...for a journalist to do their job...afterall it's dangerous. You might end up on somebodies "hit list". The game is played on very precisely measured courts...there should be standardization of the equipment. It is not like skiing or golf. You don't see anyone changing the size of a basketball or a basketball hoop.
But as far as the loss to Delbonis goes...Roger was more than happy to give Federico something to tell his grandchildren. What Roger wanted out of this tournament that he specifically added to his schedule along with Gstaad, Switzerland was feedback. He's testing a new racquet and his sole concern was the feedback under playing tournament conditions. I imagine that he was more or less happy to skip a meaningless final (for him) against Fabulous Fognini and cop a day of rest somewhere with the wife and kids. His resume is complete without that title...let's face it. The match was meaningless except that he got to play two more sets with the new stick. By losing in the semifinals he get to rest until Wednesday in Gstaad...probably at home. Every step you take...he is measuring in some way, shape or form.
His analysis of the big picture goes something like this. He is committed to changing racquets so he needs match play to gage the work in progress. He took a second round win against Daniel Brands 3-6, 6-3, 6-2...third round win Jan Hajek 6-4, 2-6, 6-4...quarterfinal win against Florian "Quirky" Mayer 7-6, 3-6, 7-5...he will take all of this information home with him and talk it over with Paul Annacone and get ready for this week in Gstaad. He coincidentally plays Brand again in the second round which is an unbelievable stroke of good luck so that he can calibrate his results from one week to the next. He is only looking for information these two weeks. He wants to know...if he can continue to compete at his present or even his former level with a piece of equipment that is finally equal to that of his competition.
This change of equipment by the worlds best player of the past decade is the biggest story in tennis this year. I hope that there are some really in-depth analysis on the decision making process and the historical implications. I doubt if it will happen. It will certainly be interesting to see what happens as a result of this experiment. I think that he should have changed racquet companies as I suggested in a post a couple of months ago. He could have really cashed in...with a new contract from Head, Prince or Babalot. You know what company I wish he would have consulted with? Dunlop. I think that he needs a racquet with more feel than the racquets that Wilson manufactures have.don_budge
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The U. S. Open 2013...Roger Federer's focus
Originally posted by dimitrios View PostI think you're being a bit generous here. Fed lost in straight sets to a qualifier!!! Lost in straights to Tsonga at the French and lost to a non-powerhouse (albeit one who played like one for a day!) at Wimbledon -- his first pre-quarerfinal loss at a Slam in nine years. The writing is (and has been for some time) on the wall.
These losses not only likely sting him in a cumulative manner, they also steadily embolden his opponents!
I agree, as you point out, that one should "let go of losses"; I just think that's getting harder and harder for Fed to do so these days.
If one were to spin it in Fed's favor, one could say he's testing out a new racket and finding his way with that.
Federer may have lost half a step...my father was telling me that the veterans in the game of baseball used to tell him that the legs were the first thing to go. With that half step goes the ability to set up and take a proper balanced swing. He may just be able to buy back some time with the extra eight square inches. That is almost nine percent in terms of hitting surface of the racquet. This might not produce miracles but it will level the playing field which he has been playing at a deficit all of these years.
He has only one thought on his mind from this point forward...The 2013 U. S. Open in New York City. Everything that happens from this point forwards is only practice...rehearsal. For the Big Show.don_budge
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Hmmm
Federer can play pretty much as well as he ever did. His form just isn't as consistent as it was. There is your chronological age and your biological age. They don't always go hand in hand. Even life isn't that perfect. Hass' biological age is 30, not 35. A stroke of luck. Federer may be the same or not...too early to say.
The other thing is the game has left Federer a little behind. It's becoming more and more about shot tolerance and phenomenal court coverage. Federer simply cannot match what's going on at the moment.
A new racket will alter events very little...it's too little too late.Stotty
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Motivation
I still think the big question for Federer is motivation. I don't think he really has it. I think at this point in his career he is unsure of where he is heading. He's certainly aware that he doesn't have the consistency he used to have. And is he losing a half step? He's got to be aware of these things.
Fed is not Andre Agassi. Agassi had something to prove at a very late stage in his career. Fed doesn't have anything to prove. He's already done it. He's already amassed more grand slams then anyone else.
Fed has often said that he wanted to play until the 2016 Olympics. But will he? I actually found a quote from him the other day where he admitted that things could change for him in a moments notice, that he might not make it that far. The doubt is beginning to creep in.
I really don't see him playing this year with the same enthusiasm he has exhibited in the past. He often looks like he is just going through the motions.
The problem for him at this point in his life is if and when he retires from pro tennis, what does he do next? All he knows is tennis.
If he continues to lose to much lesser players will he want to continue? I don't see him as a Tommy Hasse or a Layton Hewitt. If Fed doesn't continue to stay in the top ten and beat the big elite players will he want to hang around on the ATP tour? Will he watch himself slide down that slope to mediocrity or will he want to go out more at the top of his game? I think his ego will opt for the latter.
I believe we will have the answers to these questions sooner rather than later. Time is running out for Fed, regardless of a racquet change!
jbill
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My guess is that he retires at the end of the U.S. Open next year, although I hope he plays longer if he can still compete at a high level. He's not going to pull a Hewitt though, where we keep saying, "Is that guy still around?" The key is whether he loses a few straight Grand Slams in the first 3 rounds. That would be very tough on his ego.
With that said, I would love for one more Sampras-like run in a Grand Slam. I also think he might have some incentive to get 1,000 match wins. (I think he's at like 907 now or something like that)
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Motivation is a product of Inspiration...
Originally posted by jbill View PostI still think the big question for Federer is motivation. I don't think he really has it. He's got to be aware of these things.
Fed is not Andre Agassi.
The doubt is beginning to creep in.
I really don't see him playing this year with the same enthusiasm he has exhibited in the past. He often looks like he is just going through the motions.
The problem for him at this point in his life is if and when he retires from pro tennis, what does he do next? All he knows is tennis.
If he continues to lose to much lesser players will he want to continue?
Time is running out for Fed, regardless of a racquet change!
jbill
You raise some really compelling issues that Roger Federer is staring in the face at this point of his career. It's really interesting to play arm chair quarterback here...but here goes.
I believe that motivation is always a huge factor...and motivation is born of inspiration. Federer is a tennis player...it is what he knows. It isn't about money at this point and that works in his favor as much as it may make him too comfortable. He is fully aware of every little tiny detail of his tennis game but that is not to say that his ego may trip him up from time to time. Let's face it...it takes a large dose of ego to accomplish what he has in his career. Sticking with the inferior equipment was a big mistake but it may not be to late to salvage some great play late in his career. He has played some great tennis in the past year. Some very mediocre tennis too. I am very curious as to what kind of impact this new racquet may have. It just might surprise some of you.
Brad Gilbert talks of playing set up points...well Roger is in the phase of his career where he is playing set up tournaments. They don't all carry equal value in his estimation and he is playing them accordingly. The perceived lackadaisical effort that we see sometimes may only be tactical retreat to play for the "Big Show"...as in the 2013 U. S. Open coming up. That loss in Hamburg was a smart loss. He is measuring every step he takes for the Open. By losing on Saturday he rests at home until Thursday when he plays David Brands today at 5pm Euro time. That is five days of practice and rest...not to mention home cooking and sleeping in his own bed. That alone might be enough to recharge the batteries of this Mercedes Benz. I will be glued to that match.
So with Roger it is an issue of inspiration and the only thing that can really inspire him at this point is Grand Slam titles and rightfully so. One can only travel around the world at full speed so many times before you just run out of gas...out of energy. But Roger has been pacing himself pretty good this year. He should have made the switch at the beginning of the year so that he would have had some big time tournament play under him at this point. I will bet you now that he wishes that he would have switched before Wimbledon...and before Roland Garros. That defeat in England stung him more than any other. The rest were meaningless compared to that one. The draw was looking pretty good until the semis...but he crashed to whatshisname.
But time waits for nobody...taking a look at Daddy Federer it doesn't look to me that he is some genetic marvel so it is a matter of time...as well as genetics in a sense. He is no Agassi...but he is Federer. He has eight more square inches...is it enough? Agassi played with 108 square inches most of his career. For me he has always been over rated due to the equipment question, the image is everything personna and perhaps ped's. I hate that questions about equipment and ped's enter into the equation. Standardize and test!!! Level the playing field for all.
Originally posted by licensedcoach View PostThere is your chronological age and your biological age. They don't always go hand in hand. Even life isn't that perfect. Hass' biological age is 30, not 35. A stroke of luck.
It's becoming more and more about shot tolerance and phenomenal court coverage. Federer simply cannot match what's going on at the moment.
A new racket will alter events very little...it's too little too late.
Roger has many, many miles on him. But like a beautifully engineered Mercedes Benz or Toyota Land Cruiser he is built for many, many miles. His longevity and remarkably consistent performance through the years is testimony to this quality about him. He has played relatively injury and illness free all of these years and much of this is due to the friction free manner in which he plays the game. This guy has some more miles left in that engine.
As far as shot tolerance goes this piece of equipment will be a big help in this regard. He won't be making nearly the number of mishits that we have seen in the past. When he starts to strike it pure he is going to offset marginally his court coverage issues as his opponents will not be pressing him when faced with cleaner hits. Conceivably the new racquet makes the forehand a bit better...more spin, cleaner hits, fewer misses. The backhand underspin and topspin are both a notch better. The serve gets a little more zip with even less effort....and the volley and approach game take a big step up.
This additional racquet face area also may be enough to broaden some tactical choices for Roger. I watched his match against Florian Mayer at Hamburg and was impressed that he was trying to finish at the net more often...and more successfully. This fresh approach to his game may give him some additional "inspiration" that is needed to fuel his motivation. Although a younger girlfriend may give him a bit more giddyup in his step too. Hmmm...
The racquet could very well be enough to offset some of the deficits that he has been playing to recently. As I said in a previous post...this is the biggest story in the sport of tennis this year. We are merely speculating at this point. The initial tournament results are barely preliminary. It is the U. S. Open that will offer us the true results of this experiment. I have been raising this equipment issue from my very first posts here on the forum some two and a half years ago.don_budge
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Brand v Federer
I missed the Brand match so cannot comment on Federer's performance.
The match won't concern him in one sense yet might in another. He won't care about the Swiss Open. He might care about losing to another minion...something he has rarely done for a decade. Federer is the best ever, alongside Pancho Gonzales, at defeating lower ranked players with ease, and he's going to find losing to another one annoying. He has a superiority complex (if the term exists) and finds it hard to contemplate losing to such players. He's brushed off a few of these defeats...can he keep doing so if more defeats like this roll in?Stotty
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Motivation...
Originally posted by jbill View PostFirst off, I really enjoy your responses and replies, don_budge. Thank you.
Next up: Brands beats Federer in Gstaad.
Your estimation, don_budge? -----anyone?
jbill
It's quite baffling really. Last week Roger played a number of very close matches and he at least appeared to be interested. Yesterday right in front of his father, his mother and his wife he went down very meekly. There is something about this kind of performance and some of the more recent play from Federer that just doesn't add up. All of a sudden it looks as if he cannot fight himself out of a paper bag.
I wonder if he was paid an appearance fee to play in Gstaad. If he was the sponsors were certainly left holding the bag.
I think that there is something wrong with Roger Federer. Whether it is a lack of motivation or something physical or whatever? It just doesn't appear that he gives a rat's ass. I have a hard time matching up that attitude with the legend.
It's a form of insanity. So is this. Stay tuned. It's hard to let go of the last remaining link to Classic Tennis. It's really tough to let go sometimes...of those that you love. It's the stuff that broken hearts are made of.
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The King of Pain...
Originally posted by bman View PostHe said he was super close to pulling out of the tournament because of his back problems. He was playing in pain.
The back has been an issue since Indian Wells, maybe since last Wimbledon...I suspected that he was wearing a back brace during some of the clay court competition. Federer plays through the pain...but the back is a different story. It's tough to play through back pain.
Call in the acupuncturists and the masseuse.don_budge
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Good song don_budge.
Federer has had back issues throughout his career. No sense of being Chicken Little and proclaim the sky is falling the end of Federer. People did this in 2009 and he seemed to have a decent year. Anyone remember that? He'll be rested and ready and make a push at the US Open.
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