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    Having watched Indian Wells and Miami, I am coming to the conclusion service speeds are getting slower, especially second serves. It’s hard to judge speeds watching TV, but average service speeds look slower than they were a decade or so ago? Are there any stats out there that bear this out? The average serve speed around the Sampras/Agassi era seemed quicker.

    Second serves these days look like they are being rolled in quite slowly. Returners are sometimes four or five feet inside the baseline when taking on the ball, looking like they have plenty of time...yet they don’t always wreak much damage, which begs the question: how slow are the courts over there?

    If I am right it answers a much broader question. That players only ever hone the skills most needed; less necessary skills they merely make adequate. Federer is the games’ best all rounder, but foremost he’s a baseliner whose transition and net game are average compared to past players who were great at it.

    The courts specifically dictate what’s needed, players simply respond. The perfect player will always be like the holy grail...never to be found...human nature is to blame.
    Last edited by stotty; 04-01-2013, 07:00 AM.
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    The perfect player: Isner's height and Sampras's serve.
    Edberg's volley
    Federers forehand
    Djokovic's ability to come back with high energy
    Mcenroes/rafa psych ability
    Ferrer's bull doggishness
    Gasquet's single hand bh, and Djokovics two hander
    Becker's ability to comment after the match

    Now that would be a guy worth paying to see! Ha, ha.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by GeoffWilliams View Post
      The perfect player: Isner's height and Sampras's serve.
      Edberg's volley
      Federers forehand
      Djokovic's ability to come back with high energy
      Mcenroes/rafa psych ability
      Ferrer's bull doggishness
      Gasquet's single hand bh, and Djokovics two hander
      Becker's ability to comment after the match

      Now that would be a guy worth paying to see! Ha, ha.
      Sampras - serve
      Federer - forehand
      Connors - backhand
      Frank Sedgman - volley (both wings)
      Borg/Gonzales - temperament (splitting hairs here)
      Borg/Djokovic - speed (splitting hairs again)
      David Lloyd - overhead
      Coached by Doug Eng

      Still think they need to speed the courts up, Geoff. Guys are returning easily from well inside the baseline but unable to make an impact against great defenders like Nadal/Murray/Djokovic.

      Also there is talk of Indian Wells being the 5th major. Great...but Larry needs to change the surface. Grass please.
      Last edited by stotty; 04-03-2013, 01:23 PM.
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      • #4
        Hey, Larry, how about some blue clay? And grass, and rebound ace. Make them play on all three.

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        • #5
          It might be easier to use the faster lighter balls.

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          • #6
            Fire and ice...

            Originally posted by licensedcoach View Post
            Borg/Gonzales - temperament (splitting hairs here)
            Here is one of the more interesting dichotomies...a truly fascinating metaphysical question. Two sides of the same coin. The competitive spirit model for tennis...comes in wonderfully diverse packages. Fire or ice?

            Wouldn't it be nice if we had a choice? It's not like we have a choice either. You are what you are.
            Last edited by don_budge; 04-07-2013, 01:42 AM.
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