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  • Rosewall, Seixas, Hoad, Trabert in perfect clarity..

    This is 3mins 30 seconds of four of the finest players of the 50's. See Rosewall hitting his backhand in slow motion...and frozen at the point of impact...all up close and in excellent clarity.

    I had never seen Seixas play before...nor had I ever seen Trabert's famed backhand...strange shot...how he lifts his elbow to initiate the backswing.

    Is Hoad hitting the serve at the apex in these clips? Look at the long follow throughs on their backhand volleys.

    This is my best find so far...

    Last edited by stotty; 02-14-2013, 02:42 PM.
    Stotty

  • #2
    That is absolutely phenomenal. Best slow mo footage ever of Rosewall's backhand! And the other guys. equally wow.

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    • #3
      1954 Davis Cup...My Favorite Year!

      Originally posted by licensedcoach View Post

      This is my best find so far...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR7kvBGntW8
      It may be your best or one of your best...but you have had some awfully good ones. It's hard to say.


      On March 13, 1954 don_budge arrived on the scene!



      Born in the 50's...The Police

      We were born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties

      My mother cried
      When president Kennedy died
      She said it was the communists
      But I knew better

      Would they drop the bomb on us
      While we made love on the beach
      We were the class they couldn't teach
      'Cause we knew better
      We were born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties

      They screamed
      When the Beatles sang
      And they laughed when the King fell down the stairs
      Oh they should've known better
      Oh we hated our Aunts
      Then we messed in our pants
      Then we lost our faith and prayed to the TV
      Oh we should've known better

      We were born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties

      We freeze like statues on the pages of history
      Living was never like this when we took all those G.C.E.'s
      Oh, you opened the door for us
      And then you turned to dust
      You don't understand us
      So don't reprimand us
      We're taking the future
      We don't need no teacher
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties
      Born, born in the fifties


      1954 Davis Cup...Lew Hoad, Ken Rosewall, Tony Trabert and Vic Seixas.

      1954...my favorite year. It was the year that I was born...I know it sounds like a long time ago but believe me some people will tell you that it was just the wink of a young girls eye. Myself...it seems like centuries. But I am no worse for wear. “My Favorite Year” was a movie that starred Peter O’Toole and it took place in 1954...about an aging drunk and rascally actor playing out his final scenes on the big stage...of life.

      Four players all using wood racquets and all clad in all white clothing. I would bet that most of the younger people viewing such a video find it rather strange looking at this in black and white. But with all of the change that has taken place in the last 59 years it seems very normal to me...and very elegant. This is the way that tennis was meant to be played...from the beginning. This was evolution without infringing on the integrity of the traditions.

      Lew Hoad...just take a look at those mechanics. From his service motion and his smash in the the overhand techniques to his volley action with the big backswings and follow throughs. The narrater observes his superb combination of pace, depth and placement. Fundamentally he was structured but he was feeling it his way.

      Ken Rosewall...The 5’ 7” diminutive “Muscles”...the same thing as Hoad. The few shots of him hitting the famous slice backhand gives one the impression that he could hit it from virtually any position while still maintaining his balance. Some good views of his grips too. The grip on the backhand seems a little bit stronger than the continental...he does something with his hand in the beginning of his backswing as he regrips the racquet.

      Tony Trabert...talk about muscles, this guy looks to be in excellent physical condition. Ready to go five sets if need be in the Australian heat on the grass. His forehand volley looks to be the soundest fundamentally speaking of all of these four based on the backswing and the footwork. The narrater refers to his backhand as unorthodox but this is something that I don’t understand. He apparently thinks that his stronger grip and early contact are the anomalies. It turned out that Tony was very good at making a living as a tennis commentator. Very astute and observant. Attributes that he learned from years of tennis training no doubt.

      Vic Seixas...to me his form appears to be the best of all...particularly on the volleys. Nice smooth service motion without any superfluous activity. The beautiful smash and overhead technique. Why is he standing so far behind the baseline when he serves? Don Budge won the Senior Doubles at Wimbledon with Vic Seixas in 1973 I believe. They beat Jaroslav Drobny and Lennart Bergilen in the finals. Budge was using me to practice his return of a left handed serve anticipating a meeting with Drobny. I was 18...and had legs like a stallion. Still do.

      The narrater makes a couple of interesting points in this short clip. Something to consider when trying to compare the days of yesterday with modern day tennis. He mentions at one point...”let youngsters mold their own games and advise them how to fix faults.” And right at the conclusion of the clip he says...”four players, each with a very different style...”.

      His point about the youngsters was very interesting and he wasn’t talking about six year olds. Then he was probably referring to boys of 16 to 18 years old when player were beginning to come into their own. Nobody was speculating about the future of six year olds in those days...and correctly so. Plus these days nobody is letting youngsters mold their own style...they are being trained to play robot tennis. Video tennis. Strong gripped forehand and two hand backhand equipped with a service motion that is designed for brute power. His comment about the different styles brings back to mind a post from the past on this forum. It was a post about style in the modern days of tennis when I was asserting that the modern game really lacked true “tennis style” as it used to be referred to...the way it is referred to by this narrater. These days there is only one Roger Federer.

      It’s a nice find licensedcoach. Keep up the good work!
      Last edited by don_budge; 02-15-2013, 01:25 AM.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by don_budge View Post
        It may be your best or one of your best...but you have had some awfully good ones. It's hard to say.


        On March 13, 1954 don_budge arrived on the scene!



        Born in the 50's...The Police

        We were born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties

        My mother cried
        When president Kennedy died
        She said it was the communists
        But I knew better

        Would they drop the bomb on us
        While we made love on the beach
        We were the class they couldn't teach
        'Cause we knew better
        We were born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties

        They screamed
        When the Beatles sang
        And they laughed when the King fell down the stairs
        Oh they should've known better
        Oh we hated our Aunts
        Then we messed in our pants
        Then we lost our faith and prayed to the TV
        Oh we should've known better

        We were born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties

        We freeze like statues on the pages of history
        Living was never like this when we took all those G.C.E.'s
        Oh, you opened the door for us
        And then you turned to dust
        You don't understand us
        So don't reprimand us
        We're taking the future
        We don't need no teacher
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties
        Born, born in the fifties


        1954 Davis Cup...Lew Hoad, Ken Rosewall, Tony Trabert and Vic Seixas.

        1954...my favorite year. It was the year that I was born...I know it sounds like a long time ago but believe me some people will tell you that it was just the wink of a young girls eye. Myself...it seems like centuries. But I am no worse for wear. “My Favorite Year” was a movie that starred Peter O’Toole and it took place in 1954...about an aging drunk and rascally actor playing out his final scenes on the big stage...of life.

        Four players all using wood racquets and all clad in all white clothing. I would bet that most of the younger people viewing such a video find it rather strange looking at this in black and white. But with all of the change that has taken place in the last 59 years it seems very normal to me...and very elegant. This is the way that tennis was meant to be played...from the beginning. This was evolution without infringing on the integrity of the traditions.

        Lew Hoad...just take a look at those mechanics. From his service motion and his smash in the the overhand techniques to his volley action with the big backswings and follow throughs. The narrater observes his superb combination of pace, depth and placement. Fundamentally he was structured but he was feeling it his way.

        Ken Rosewall...The 5’ 7” diminutive “Muscles”...the same thing as Hoad. The few shots of him hitting the famous slice backhand gives one the impression that he could hit it from virtually any position while still maintaining his balance. Some good views of his grips too. The grip on the backhand seems a little bit stronger than the continental...he does something with his hand in the beginning of his backswing as he regrips the racquet.

        Tony Trabert...talk about muscles, this guy looks to be in excellent physical condition. Ready to go five sets if need be in the Australian heat on the grass. His forehand volley looks to be the soundest fundamentally speaking of all of these four based on the backswing and the footwork. The narrater refers to his backhand as unorthodox but this is something that I don’t understand. He apparently thinks that his stronger grip and early contact are the anomalies. It turned out that Tony was very good at making a living as a tennis commentator. Very astute and observant. Attributes that he learned from years of tennis training no doubt.

        Vic Seixas...to me his form appears to be the best of all...particularly on the volleys. Nice smooth service motion without any superfluous activity. The beautiful smash and overhead technique. Why is he standing so far behind the baseline when he serves? Don Budge won the Senior Doubles at Wimbledon with Vic Seixas in 1973 I believe. They beat Jaroslav Drobny and Lennart Bergilen in the finals. Budge was using me to practice his return of a left handed serve anticipating a meeting with Drobny. I was 18...and had legs like a stallion. Still do.

        The narrater makes a couple of interesting points in this short clip. Something to consider when trying to compare the days of yesterday with modern day tennis. He mentions at one point...”let youngsters mold their own games and advise them how to fix faults.” And right at the conclusion of the clip he says...”four players, each with a very different style...”.

        His point about the youngsters was very interesting and he wasn’t talking about six year olds. Then he was probably referring to boys of 16 to 18 years old when player were beginning to come into their own. Nobody was speculating about the future of six year olds in those days...and correctly so. Plus these days nobody is letting youngsters mold their own style...they are being trained to play robot tennis. Video tennis. Strong gripped forehand and two hand backhand equipped with a service motion that is designed for brute power. His comment about the different styles brings back to mind a post from the past on this forum. It was a post about style in the modern days of tennis when I was asserting that the modern game really lacked true “tennis style” as it used to be referred to...the way it is referred to by this narrater. These days there is only one Roger Federer.

        It’s a nice find licensedcoach. Keep up the good work!
        Yes this was quite a find. The Youtube title didn't betray what was hiding in the
        footage. Something I'm finding happens quite a lot. Lots of good stuff is hidden behind lousy titles on Youtube and other video websites.

        I love the forehand volleys of Rosewall/Trabert. Ploughing (is that plowing in yankee speak?) the right shoulder into the ball...absolutely love that lost art and could watch it all day. The shoulder-high backhand volleys of all the men have wonderful follow throughs. The s/v split step of Seixas...

        Glad you popped in, don_budge. The other half of the reason of posting these clips was to smoke you out...so glad you took the bait...your observations are as sharp as ever.
        Stotty

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