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  • Why can't we make Serve simple?

    I always wonder.. why can't we make serve just simple? I mean there are great reseach and math out there..and those definitely will help but most people don't get that concept or many don't even bother to read...... why can't we just make it like this?

    I mean if you disagree with me please let me know.. i really don't mind...

    Make sure have Countinental grip when you serve..if you don't then you can't get the correct way of serving...

    1) service motion is just like throwing football...except service motion goes up.. football they throw straight....
    Learn how to throw the football first... if your coach doesn't know how then maybe you can hire football quarterback and ask to learn how to throw.. this is first step... if you don't get concept of throwing then forget it.. you are waisting time with racket....


    2) then get racket then go grass and throw the racket instead of football.. just like football....just like throwing football.. when you throw football you never use big wind up.. just start from half way like overhead


    3) then get the ball and stand deuce court.. then hit only slice.. one basket... cut the ball.. just like throwing the football.. no wind up...
    Do not pronate at this moment so you wll be hitting lots of slice serve...

    4) then learn how to use prnate the wrist.. just before you hit pronate the wrist... so you can contact the ball flat....

    that's it.. tha's your serve... another great drill is hit many many many overhead... especiallly you stand left side of service box and hit lots of inside out overhead.. if you can hit this correctly you are in great shape....

    that's it... well, it is not that simple but we don't need college math to figure this out.... start out learning how to throw.. that is the short cut.. if you use racket all the time you get more confuse.....
    Last edited by chokomakashi; 04-18-2010, 06:09 PM.

  • #2
    Sure you can make the serve simple for most people learning tennis. What is being done in the biomechanics section by Brian Gordon is a scientific analysis for a very small group of persons really interested in understanding the mechanics of the serve. This is certainly not meant to be read by the average person taking tennis lessons. It is for those who are truly curious to know what is actually going on. It is called scientific research.

    It is just like the money spent on particle colliders like the Large Hadron Collider. The average Joe couldn't be interested less in knowing if the Higgs boson and the graviton actually exist. Yet the spinoffs are there.

    Similarly with Brian's research. Gaining indepth insight, creates not only understanding, leads but to simpler models to teach tennis. You might not need to have greater insight, but others, such as I do.
    Last edited by gzhpcu; 04-18-2010, 06:01 AM. Reason: typo

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    • #3
      Phil,
      Couldn't agree more--Brian's articles have been worth the effort to construct and are to read! It took us a year to recover from the serve series but eventually we will be able to face the forehand.
      John Yandell

      PS: Fascinated by the super collider--just hoping it doesn't create that black hole...
      Last edited by johnyandell; 04-18-2010, 10:36 AM.

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      • #4
        Wonderful

        thank you very much for your reply.. again any reply is great for me.., i can learn a lot..

        well, please no offense... yes i read his article.. i just got overwhelmed

        just too much great information and couldn't get everything...

        i mean... i am very sure there are so many players who want to learn serve and i am sure got confused with article.. i did....maybe i am only one and maybe stupid one....

        okay great..thank you.. but here.. may i continue to make serving stuff easy...so we don't have to deal with too much with science...

        yes.. i do recommend people to read that section.. but in case people like me do not get his article i have something to give in very simple form....

        but thank you very much...

        oh by the way.. mr. Yandell how can i post picture here? thank you

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        • #5
          I hope that the Hadron collider in Roger Federer's home country has more success than the Waxahatchee collider in Texas. Does anyone know if the National Tennis Academy, also in Waxahatchee, is still chugging along, and if its founder, the Englishman Joe Cockersham, has acquired the ruins of the Waxahatchee collider for a tennis camp?

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          • #6
            How to Post a Picture

            Chokomakashi:

            It isn't hard. 1) have a photo in "my pictures." 2) click on the paper clip above. 3) look in "my pictures." 4) click on desired picture. 5) click on "Open." 6) click on "Upload." When that still doesn't work, go back to the paper clip just above and click on the downward facing arrow to its right, which gets you the name of the picture you just identified. Click on it and some code words should appear just below this: "05sheep_450.jpg," they say in my case and they appear wherever I left my accursed cursor. Then, when I click on "Submit Reply," the picture should appear.


            05sheep_450.jpg

            Well, I was hoping for just one picture, not two, but you can't have everything.

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            • #7
              thank you so much

              bottle.. thank you so much..okay i tired.. and i was able to upload.. but how can i post picture to this thread?

              it says like

              Current Attachment (29.5 kb) .... then how can i post in here?

              thank you very much for your help
              Last edited by chokomakashi; 04-20-2010, 09:57 AM.

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              • #8
                Thank you very much I got it...

                Thank you very much I got it.. i will post serving picture

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