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  • hey littlelobber and USPTA

    hello littlelobber... well, John does give great advice.. and from my over 10 yeras old teaching kid and etc.. let me give you my statistics....

    1) start out low to high is always safe way to start tennis.. racket not straight back.. but drop so racket is make sure below the ball... and hit thought the ball...believe me i did anything to kids.. bring racket up.. straight back.. but loop is dangerous.. they will hit the ball high to down.. they don't get the concept of dropping the racket.. and if I stand next them and correct each swing then they get really frustrated... i completely againt facing racket to the right fence just like pros.. because this cuase them to change the grip to semi western really quick...

    2) never give kids any target or limitation.. --this give kids some kind of hear of hitting the ball.. oh my father or coach is screating at me.. i jsut hit the ball soft... i tell them hit the ball flat and hit the ball as hard as you can , but never use the wrist... then they will enjoy hiting the ball.. if you start kids limitation.. like make sure get the ball on court.. they will never learn how to be aggressive when grow up.. just like stroke if you start wrong mind set you will hit the wall soon or later.. you have to teach kids.. you have to win tennis with your shots not from opponent's mistake....

    3) Flat is the way to go... if you start kids spin.. boy forget it.. after 3 month of spin.. your grip will change to western grip and arm rap so quickly to body and ball will land service line and things get mess in hurry... believe me we will never know how much kids will grow later or not... yes top spin is great.. but if kid isn't too athletic or did not become big then.. forget it.. top spin won't be very effective.. unless you can generate so much racket speed you will never hit great top spin shots.. and not to mention you better be fast to truck down lots of shots.. and again we will never know kids have these elements when they are young...

    My warming... teaching loop isn't as easy as what we think.. it is complicated.. where you place the racket and then you have to expalin kid how much you drop the racket and etc...
    summary.... again.. this is not what i made up.. i just realized by teaching for over 10 years... and yes.. kids will learn loop later.. but if you are not with well known coach or just father or mother is teaching then just teach low to high swing.. watch Kimiko Date's swing.. mr Macenroe's swing.. that's the way to start.. i see many young instractor or father is teaching kids how to play and i see the stroke is just out of control... if you really want kid to start out nice loop then make sure do great research on instracots...

    my advice of finding instractors

    1) do no pick the instractor becuase he or she knows how to play very well
    2) see his or her students stroke... and make sure see the age...
    3) Find the instractor good at teaching your son or daughter's age
    4) make sure go watch his lesson before you start taking one...

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    • lg vargas,

      Basically from bottom to top! Summary should work at any time...

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      • Thanks

        Thanks John

        It's amazing all the other things that I don't have to mention when the kids start with a turn. simple is always best.

        LL

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        • racquet head drop

          please if you could john look at and comment on my thread .thanks

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          • Yep.

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            • Building The Modern Forehand

              John, under your articles "Building the Modern Forehand", if I start from the bottom up, arm and hand rotation comes before shoulder rotation which is not the proper sequence of your articles. Please take a second look and advise me of the proper order-thank you.

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              • Nope it's correct. All of them touch on certain issues that interrelate--shoulder rotation in this case refers to forward swing.

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                • John, under hand and arm rotation article you say " after racket face angle and shoulder rotation the third variable across the grip styles on the modern forehand is hand and arm rotation". If I start from the bottom up under "Building the Modern Forehand", as you suggest, hand and arm rotation article comes before the shoulder rotation and racket face angle when based upon your comments above hand and arm rotation should come after these articles. The order of the articles definitely are out of order. I know your busy so why not have one of your staff members make the necessary changes so it would be in the proper order and easier to understand and follow-thanks
                  Last edited by lgvargas; 04-16-2010, 09:47 AM.

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                  • Sorry if you find it confusing but if you don't believe me go click thru the past issues starting say around march 2009 and you'll see the articles as they were put up in sequence. I don't think the articles are so limited that they need to be read in a precise sequence anyway...so those will be my final words on the topic, thanks.

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                    • John, thats fine if you don't want to correct the proper sequence of your articles but it would be so much easier to follow if the articles were in there proper order. Your arrogance and lack of attention to detail regarding this matter leaves me somewhat perplexed-I honestly just think that you are being lazy regarding my request. This will be my last statement regarding this ongoing problem.

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                      • I'm assuming you didn't actually verify the order from the past issues or you wouldn't have made this post. Calling me names won't change the facts--that's the order we put them up in and if you can't see or aren't willing to check that I'm sorry--you happen to be mistaken on this point.

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                        • Building The Modern Forehand

                          John, I am referring to the your first series of articles listed under "Building The Modern Forehand" and not your latest articles of "Your Forehand and The Modern Forehand". They are not listed in the proper order and it would be helpful to have them put in the proper sequence

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                          • OK then. Let me take a look at that.

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                            • These 5 articles were all put up at the same time in the giant first issue 5 years ago. That's why they are still in that sequence top to bottom. If you want to read them in order, read the bottom two first, below these 5, on the commonalities and backswings, then read these top to bottom, then proceed upwards.
                              We'll get the order changed as soon as we have time.

                              Last edited by johnyandell; 04-17-2010, 11:12 AM.

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                              • Thanks John. Where does the rotation and extension article along with the hitting stances article fall in the proper sequence?

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