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Originally posted by johnyandell View PostRight, it should be 180 coming back! Amazing I screwed that up. Thanks. And yeah I agree. If you can master the basic rotation there is hope for the future! What did you think of the analysis of Amber by the way??
Did you miss my post(About Amber's Forehand) just above the one about 180 vs 90? Also hoping you get to look at the thread: Footwork.
Hope you got recharged from your fishing trip!
all the best,
don
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Thank goodness, someone findly addressed this whole "pat the dog" issue. As mentioned in the article, delaying the formation of the hitting arm structure, is exactly what most players want to avoid. I've also found, it can lead to quick, choppy, almost violent movements, in the "turnaround" stage of the swing, when the EMPHASIS is on keeping the racquet face this closed, this late, in the downswing.
Moreover, I'm now an even bigger fan of Don. I've always liked his articles, and am always interested in his thoughts on the game. The guy knows what he's talking about.
To check his ego at the door, on a public forum, for the benefit of his student, reveals the caliber of coach, and person he is. Many pros would not do this! I know, I've been around. What a great example, of putting the kid first.
It's not hard to understand why the guy is successful.
John's analysis, was spot on in my opinion, and I have no doubt Don will make the necessary changes, to compliment and already very develped game. Again, great collaboration and example of real teachers at work!Last edited by 10splayer; 07-16-2009, 02:42 PM.
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Originally posted by 10splayer View PostThank goodness, someone findly addressed this whole "pat the dog" issue. As mentioned in the article, delaying the formation of the hitting arm structure, is exactly what most players want to avoid. I've also found, it can lead to quick, choppy, almost violent movements, in the "turnaround" stage of the swing, when the EMPHASIS is on keeping the racquet face this closed, this late, in the downswing.
Moreover, I'm now an even bigger fan of Don. I've always liked his articles, and am always interested in his thoughts on the game. The guy knows what he's talking about.
To check his ego at the door, on a public forum, for the benefit of his student, reveals the caliber of coach, and person he is. Many pros would not do this! I know, I've been around. What a great example, of putting the kid first.
It's not hard to understand why the guy is successful.
John's analysis, was spot on in my opinion, and I have no doubt Don will make the necessary changes, to compliment and already very develped game. Again, great collaboration and example of real teachers at work!
In any case, thanks for all the kind words. I'll be sure to let everyone know how it works out.
In the meantime, anyone else notice the strange way Amber's arm goes from straight to bent and then straightens out through the hit? This is really pushing the ball across the net instead of swinging through it. I'm hoping that just disappears as we address the "pat the dog" problem.
thanks,
don
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Originally posted by uspta990770809 View PostYou guys are being so nice to me, it's almost...no, nevermind, I'm almost hypoglycemic anyway and I think I can handle it. It will be interesting to see if I can get Amber to make the necessary changes in that forehand. So far the effort seems to be having positive results, but it will take a couple of months to see any significant change in longstanding habits. It's amazing how many strange habits talented kids seem to be able to develop. Maybe it's actually everyone and we only notice the talented ones because they are able to survive and even excel inspite of those habits; the others just give up and fall away.
In any case, thanks for all the kind words. I'll be sure to let everyone know how it works out.
In the meantime,anyone else notice the strange way Amber's arm goes from straight to bent and then straightens out through the hit? This is really pushing the ball across the net instead of swinging through it. I'm hoping that just disappears as we address the "pat the dog" problem
thanks,
don
I've had some success showing kids how to supinate the arm, manually first, when this too closed, for too long, racquet face problem exists. Just kind of showed them how the forearm rotates the racquet head down and back, and how the elbow bends and moves into the rib cage, before the racquet begins to move forward.
Ultimately, you'll probably want this to occur as a result of the hips rotating, and the external, or outward, rotation of the right shoulder. Showing her how to do this manually, at first, might be good stepping stone to the final package. Anyway that's how I see it, but I've been wrong before.Last edited by 10splayer; 07-23-2009, 01:59 PM.
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Hi John
I am unable to send you the video of my son because the video from the camp is not sent homem but is analysed there. I cannot record the video myself because my camcorder is not compadible with my computer. Thank you for offering to help though. My son is actually doing great with his new grip and his forehand is almost back to normal.
Thanks again,
Jonathan
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John,
Pancho Gonzales supposedly had a 72% career average on his first serve. This stat came from Tennisone. Tennisone (I emailed them) say they got this stat from Vic Braden. I emailed Vic Braden to ask where he came across such a stat because I'm not convinced all results from back then could have been successfully archived. I suspect the stat was derived from a cross-section of his matches and not his entire career. Braden never replied to my email.
Would you happen to know anything about this stat? Pancho had a wonderful serve, as good as anyone's today considering players had to keep their front foot on the ground back then!
Seventy two percent seems staggeringly high, though.Last edited by tcuk; 07-30-2009, 10:32 AM.
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same grip for forehand and backhand
John,
any opinion on the post at tennis-warehose quoted below?
One of my students asked the same question-my reaction was very negative.
Was I very wrong ?
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I use the same grip from my forehand and 1hbh. Is this "bad"?
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I never consciously thought about it until my coach asked to see which grips I use. I was shocked to see that I use a semi-western grip for both strokes. He said that a SW grip for a 1hbh is better for high balls, that such an extreme grip might be difficult to use on low balls. However, he said that some players can make it work for them. So I'm going with this route; it works for me.
But really, is this a bad habit?Last edited by uspta146749877; 07-31-2009, 10:01 AM.
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