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[stotty]

Ever thought of starting a coaching lexicon page here on Tennisplayer? People get confused about pronation and internal shoulder rotation it seems and misunderstand what they are. You tend to talk about arm, hand, racket rotation as items separate/in addition to internal shoulder rotation. Is their a name for the arm, hand, racket rotation sequence? Or do we need to invent one?

[johnyandell]

Good suggestions and now on a (long!) list.

[jrlaible]

Any filming plans for 2020?

Talk around the campfire is that Tsitsipas' forehand is incredibly heavy, and I think Thiem has the inch for inch best serve on tour. Would also love a feature on Kyrgios' serve. Currently think Shapovolov has the cleanest most pure serve on tour. Absolutely nothing extra and brutally effective.

J

[johnyandell]

Yes sir.

[stotty]

Wow. Didn't know that data existed. I've felt the ATP should release all their shot spot data for years... This is the makings of a Tennisplayer article!

Get on it, John. This one could be interesting.

[J011yroger]

Wow. Didn't know that data existed. I've felt the ATP should release all their shot spot data for years... This is the makings of a Tennisplayer article!

I'm going to send you a private email about the subject, what I have been told training with ATP coaches. I have an ethical issue with sharing good information online as I feel it is unfair to my and their students.

J

[johnyandell]

Wow. Didn't know that data existed. I've felt the ATP should release all their shot spot data for years... This is the makings of a Tennisplayer article!

[J011yroger]

Sounds like Federer to me.

Nadal is only 2.5'

http://on-the-t.com/2016/11/05/aoleaderboard-line-hitting/

J

[johnyandell]

Sounds like Federer to me.

[J011yroger]

Yes I forgot to mention that. A more compact swing makes it more likely they ca access topspin. With the 'helicopter' backswings, you sometimes find they can get topspin in practice but it disappears when the match starts.

I'm looking for heavy rotation on a flatter trajectory, ideally 2' of net clearance and landing 8-10' inside the baseline.

J

[johnyandell]

Great discussion.

[stotty]

What about spin? I find their ball gets a nice jump off the court.

J

Yes I forgot to mention that. A more compact swing makes it more likely they ca access topspin. With the 'helicopter' backswings, you sometimes find they can get topspin in practice but it disappears when the match starts.

[J011yroger]

Me neither. I just go for the shaved down backswing. A couple of girls I coach (may post one of the forum) stay on the right side of their body with their backswings. Interesting thing is - when compared to girls with huge backswings - they don't gain power but does't lose it either. What they do gain is more reliability and so the ability to rally longer. That's got to be worth something. I am settling for that right now until someone pops up with a silver bullet.

What about spin? I find their ball gets a nice jump off the court.

J

[stotty]

It's an interesting question what to show students. Obviously most of the women have big behind the body backswings. Not that they don't work because they do. My fear is showing that as a model could lead to even bigger more exaggerated backswings as players try to copy positions. My own approach is to show women the compact guys--Fed, Grigor, but then see. Never had awoman that developed a pure ATP motion, but I think the compact model probably moderates the huge wind ups.

Me neither. I just go for the shaved down backswing. A couple of girls I coach (may post one of the forum) stay on the right side of their body with their backswings. Interesting thing is - when compared to girls with huge backswings - they don't gain power but does't lose it either. What they do gain is more reliability and so the ability to rally longer. That's got to be worth something. I am settling for that right now until someone pops up with a silver bullet.

[J011yroger]

W/R/T= with regard to.

Yea, I think many coaches have done a disservice to girls.

I'm doing good work out there getting the 14-16 year olds cut down to reasonable backswings, but it is a slow process.

Obviously the ankle biters are easier because they do what I tell them without any preexisting huge takebacks. But it would be nice to be able to show a girl the stroke actually working for another girl. I radared my feed at 76mph with no backswing so that gets their attention to say I can do this with nothing so what are you doing out here.

Gonna have to wait 5 years and see how it works out.

J