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Originally posted by johnyandell View PostRight, it should be 180 coming back! Amazing I screwed that up. Thanks. And yeah I agree. If you can master the basic rotation there is hope for the future! What did you think of the analysis of Amber by the way??
Did you miss my post(About Amber's Forehand) just above the one about 180 vs 90? Also hoping you get to look at the thread: Footwork.
Hope you got recharged from your fishing trip!
all the best,
don
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Originally posted by johnyandell View PostGreat question. And I have no answer but definitely I agree with the posts at TW about his grip being more eastern. Also more over the shoulder and reverse finishes. As usual at the majors there weren't enough close ups to see if that stuck, but it seemed he was back to more wiper action--all just an impression.
We plan a high speed filming at Cincy, so that may reveal more.
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Right, it should be 180 coming back! Amazing I screwed that up. Thanks. And yeah I agree. If you can master the basic rotation there is hope for the future! What did you think of the analysis of Amber by the way??Last edited by johnyandell; 07-15-2009, 09:48 PM.
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90 degrees or 180
John,
it's a minor point, but I'm sure you are going to hear about it. Isn't the classical shoulder turn 90 degrees and this larger turn actually 180 degrees?
One of the questions I have is when do you start learning this. I believe you need to learn the classic action first and then develop the ability to go up off the ground later once you have sound fundamentals. On the other hand, all the little kids end up hitting everything above their heads the first few years in the game anyway. They don't so much jump as just give in to the extreme grips.
don
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About Amber's forehand
John, just got done reading the Your Strokes on Amber's forehand. I've been stressing the vertical racket face for quite a while, especially the last couple of weeks. (Incidentally, she beat Angela in the defacto Sectional 11 and unders last month. Only 2nd year 12 and under players made it to the semis and Amber and Angela ended up playing off for 5th. Last year, the results were reversed in the 10s.) i'll have to look more carefully at the left hand extension and try breaking that down a little more.
The other thing I've been stressing is trying to break her tendency of going from straight to bent and then back to straight, all in one forward swing. She actually straightens her right arm out as the racket swings forward, creating a push instead of a swing. Do you think this is just a compensation for the extreme closed nature of the face?
In any case, thanks for the analysis. I'll be sure to get you some new video as soon as we see some progress. Amber has one of the best serves I've seen on any young kid, boy or girl, and if she gets the forehand to back it up, she is going to be a handful.
all the best,
don
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Great question. And I have no answer but definitely I agree with the posts at TW about his grip being more eastern. Also more over the shoulder and reverse finishes. As usual at the majors there weren't enough close ups to see if that stuck, but it seemed he was back to more wiper action--all just an impression.
We plan a high speed filming at Cincy, so that may reveal more.
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John,
Do you have any idea why Federer's forehand is more compact than usual during Indians Wells 2009? Was he trying something?
I'm talking about the filming you guys did in Stroke Archive from Federer 09.
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much needed R&R
John,
Enjoy Wyoming. It's great up there. you totally deserve the break. have fun and enjoy your time off.
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I am trying to achieve said goal...my wife may forbid me from looking at this thread for my own good though...just kidding will try when I get back but there is a little thing called the July issue.
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Originally posted by johnyandell View PostYes and I am still fishing. And no I don't read all posts.
don
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Fishing in Wyoming
Originally posted by johnyandell View PostFunny I didn't get a request from Don. In any case I am fishing in Wyoming for the next week and defer all comments until thereafter.
You may check it.
I think he assumes that you read all postsLast edited by uspta146749877; 07-09-2009, 09:08 AM.
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Funny I didn't get a request from Don. In any case I am fishing in Wyoming for the next week and defer all comments until thereafter.
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A footwork thread
Joh,
Don brosseau was hoping that you may read
a very recent thread about footwork.
The link is
Thank youLast edited by uspta146749877; 07-09-2009, 04:37 AM.
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