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  • Not wrist lag! Check that out in the myths in advanced tennis. Grip strength? As relaxed as possible without losing control of the handle. Visualize the actual path of the forward swing and especially the checkpoints for the extension--either with or without the wiper.

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    • Hey, John, since you're written here about the emergence of the swinging volley on the ATP, highlighting Fed's, I thought I'd ask what your thoughts are about backhand, swinging volleys -- even from one-handers ! Here, if I can figure out the new embed stuff, are links to short videos of Grigor Dimitrov at the ATP World Cup executing one from deep, and a frame cap from that video. To my amateur eye Grigor's one-handed backhand, swinging volley looks unlike what I've seen. Hmm, embed codes don't seem to work the way they used to, I'll have to figure that out later, so meanwhile here are some links that I hope will work, and perhaps the content will be of interest to your readers.

      Tight view: https://flic.kr/p/ZB9EfQ
      Long view with replay: https://flic.kr/p/21Gp7zz
      Still, frame cap: https://flic.kr/p/21Dshns

      Clip from Tennis Channel of ATP Tour Finals 2017


      Brief clip from Tennis Channel of ATP Tour Finals 2017



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      • Jim,
        Great find! The swing looks like a backhand groundstroke--the racket doesn't know if the ball bounced...

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        • Jim,
          Great find! The swing looks like a backhand groundstroke--the racket doesn't know if the ball bounced...

          Originally posted by jimlosaltos View Post
          Hey, John, since you're written here about the emergence of the swinging volley on the ATP, highlighting Fed's, I thought I'd ask what your thoughts are about backhand, swinging volleys -- even from one-handers ! Here, if I can figure out the new embed stuff, are links to short videos of Grigor Dimitrov at the ATP World Cup executing one from deep, and a frame cap from that video. To my amateur eye Grigor's one-handed backhand, swinging volley looks unlike what I've seen. Hmm, embed codes don't seem to work the way they used to, I'll have to figure that out later, so meanwhile here are some links that I hope will work, and perhaps the content will be of interest to your readers.

          Tight view: https://flic.kr/p/ZB9EfQ
          Long view with replay: https://flic.kr/p/21Gp7zz
          Still, frame cap: https://flic.kr/p/21Dshns

          Clip from Tennis Channel of ATP Tour Finals 2017


          Brief clip from Tennis Channel of ATP Tour Finals 2017


          Great stuff, Jim. And yes it is of interest to forum readers. The shot is highly unusual. Very, very rarely will a player do that from so far back off his backhand wing. He struck the ball at just the right height and hit it exquisitely with his weight moving forward. I am not a fan of the swing volley but in that circumstance it was ideal. He seized the moment, a conventional volley would never have delivered that kind of penetration, it has to be a swing volley. Dimitrov hit it to perfection. The kid's talented.
          Stotty

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          • History will tell what role the swinging volley ends up having.

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            • John -

              On the tennis serve, do you feel that the internal rotation of the shoulder is a "natural" or "learned" movement? Some "experts" feel it will occur naturally if the kinetic chain is done properly leading up to the shoulder movement. If it's a natural movement, why do so many of the top pro's do it incorrectly? Your thoughts, please.

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              • Like all movements in tennis it can be natural or it can be learned. Hard to see so many players may not naturally absorb it.

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                • High speed archive is not working is there a problem on my end or yours?

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                  • Bobby all good here. Not sure but something in the pipes or maybe at your end...

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                    • High Speed archive isn't working with me either. I can't even get to the archive and just get an Error message.
                      Stotty

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                      • It keeps saying webpage can't be found it has been like this for a couple of weeks, thought it would fix itself.

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                        • Weird. Send me the url you are seeing. I get to it fine. This it and is working:

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                          • I get taken to a page that says this:

                            Not Found

                            The requested URL /members/high_speed_archive/high_speed_archive.html was not found on this server.

                            Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu) Server at www.tennisplayer.net Port 443
                            Stotty

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                            • Same with me.

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                              • Truly strange. Anyone else? Having Manish look into it. Kyle and I can both get in on all three browsers...
                                Last edited by johnyandell; 02-26-2018, 09:52 AM.

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