painless serve

[airforce1]

Is a video
1st serve deuce front
or
1st serve deuce rear?

julian mielniczuk
usptapro 27873
Courtside Tennis Club,Ma,Bedford

https://www.julianmielniczuk.usptapro.com

juliantennis@comcast.net

is the link not working for you?
It is the deuce front as it says in the link provided.
Is that what you are asking?

[uspta146749877]

The link

is the link not working for you?
It is the deuce front as it says in the link provided.
Is that what you are asking?

Please click the link to see how it works
and to understand my question

julian mielniczuk
usptapro 27873
Courtside Tennis Club,Ma,Bedford

https://www.julianmielniczuk.usptapro.com

juliantennis@comcast.net

[uspta146749877]

Another video to watch

Probably a better video for our purposes is one of Federer in the article

http://www.tennisplayer.net/members/avancedtennis/john_yandell/federer_serve/federer_serve_part2/federer_serve_part2.html

in the paragraph entitled
"The Arc and the Contact Point".

The Roddick's video does NOT show a ball well enough IMHO.

It looks that a contact point FOR FEDERER is more 11 o'clock than 11:45.
We assume that a clock is facing a player ( Federer in this case).
It is possible however that it shows a Federer's second serve,NOT
the first one.
One can do some calculations assuming the depth of a toss
being 4 feet and the length of the rainbow toss on THE FIRST serve ( I believe) being 2 feet.

Additionally there is an issue whether one can calculate an angle

from ONE ONEDIMENSIONAL picture only-

i.e TWO pictures from two different cameras would be better.



PS

http://www.tennisplayer.net/members/mystheavyball/john_yandell/heavy_serve_practical_implications/heavy_serve_practical_implications.html

is of a related interest as well

julian mielniczuk
usptapro 27873
Courtside Tennis Club,Ma,Bedford

https://www.julianmielniczuk.usptapro.com

juliantennis@comcast.net

[airforce1]

Please click the link to see how it works
and to understand my question

julian mielniczuk
usptapro 27873
Courtside Tennis Club,Ma,Bedford

https://www.julianmielniczuk.usptapro.com

juliantennis@comcast.net

It worked on my computer so I'm a little confused.

[uspta146749877]

Nothing bad will happen 2 u

It worked on my computer so I'm a little confused.

Please use a mouse to click the link.
Nothing bad will happen 2 u,I promise.

[airforce1]

everyone has to pick a toss position based somewhat on balance and flexiblity I guess?

the more important point in the link is to look at the line of the upper arm as it relates to the line of shoulders. You can almost draw a straight line from one shoulder to the next and straight on to the elbow at contact.
So the upper arm hardly passes the plane created by the 2 shoulders at cp.
IMO, this is important to protect the rotator cuff.

[hansen]

thanks for all the response
and yes i carved around the ball

[airforce1]

thanks for all the response
and yes i carved around the ball

The reason I asked about carving is that the carving motion seems to be related to making the V angle too tight towards the end of the stroke.
The pronation type movement seems to come from the hand and arm moving out and clearing for the shoulder to widen the V angle we discussed.

I'm not saying you can't carve and protect the shoulder, but I think it may be a challenge, along with costing you quite a bit of important racket head acceleration.