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  • Fed should listen to Lansdorp

    I agree with everything Lansdorp. If Fed wants to break Pete's record he'd better go back to the drawing board and leave his ego at the door. He needs a coach badly to help him get his confidence back.

  • #2
    I wonder why Federer has gone through such a string of coaches? Rejects their ideas, thinks he knows it all? Relies on his new wife? Hard to say whether he would have done better with one person over time. Like Sampras with Annacone?

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    • #3
      I still think Fed's case is very easy.
      Somewhere along the way, he started to try to put opponents away too quickly and by hitting risky targets. It worked fine on most weaker opponents, so it becomes pretty ingrained, but inside the top 5, they don't let him get away with that and his UEs grow out of control.

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      • #4
        Sure it's easy to give advice to a champion with double digit slams in his pocket. The age of Federer versus Nadal is to be considered. Federer is on the down side and if things go well, and someone else beats Nadal in some big tournaments, Rog might get another slam or so. Maybe it can be similar with what happened to Pete Sampras when he achieved his final open. I don't see what has happened as surprising or something that Roger Federer could prevent if he just stepped into his backhand!

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        • #5
          Slice! There must be some crazy reason Roger Federer doesn't hit that hard low cc underspin backhand to that western forehand of Rafael. I read the article John Yandell wrote with one or more clips I believe of that really working.

          Wonder what Coach Lansdorp says?

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          • #6
            As a serious Rafa fan the one thing that makes this discussion irrelevant is the Nadal will to win--it is higher than anybody right now and higher than Roger Federer.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Alfred140mph View Post
              Sure it's easy to give advice to a champion with double digit slams in his pocket. The age of Federer versus Nadal is to be considered. Federer is on the down side and if things go well, and someone else beats Nadal in some big tournaments, Rog might get another slam or so. Maybe it can be similar with what happened to Pete Sampras when he achieved his final open. I don't see what has happened as surprising or something that Roger Federer could prevent if he just stepped into his backhand!
              Yes, I guess he should just give up and realize he is too old to compete for slams. Yes, that is some useful advice for someone with double digit slams in his pocket.

              Being a young man at 27 and having had so much success is exactly why it is so hard for him to process what is going on with his game and mind. NOT the reason he is above needing good advice.

              and this from a JY post-
              Even Robert Lansdorp now has his own computer now--although he calls me at night and says things I can't print in the Forum about it...still he's learning.

              Along with "law of parsimony"---“The simplest explanation for a phenomenon is most likely the correct explanation."

              I suppose you could argue that the age thing is the simplest, but at least for me, given their ages and age separations, along with Fed's success rate with most of the other players, the age explanation borders on absurd.
              Last edited by airforce1; 05-13-2009, 04:19 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MartinaH. View Post
                As a serious Rafa fan the one thing that makes this discussion irrelevant is the Nadal will to win--it is higher than anybody right now and higher than Roger Federer.
                I think this is a very good point and Nadal's "will to win" manifest itself largely thru great shot tolerance counts, which speaks to the earlier point posted.

                Conversely though, the discussion is not nearly irrelevant because someone can always take it up a notch!
                Nadal is human, therefore will slip some from time to time. We've all seen it several times over the last yr or so.

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                • #9
                  I guess we didn't have to wait that long for Nadal to slip or for Fed to break thru and notch not one, but two more slams, while looking now like the big fav in the USO to notch another one.

                  Pretty wild what has happened in the span of a couple of months with Fed beating Nadal on clay in straights, winning the FO, winning Wimbledon, all at the over the hill age of 27 when so many thought he was done. Oh, I almost forgot the huge backhand liability.

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                  • #10
                    Agreement

                    Yes, the early posts in this thread are HILARIOUS.

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