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  • bottle
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    Reflection

    Okay I'm damaged, but the damage had nothing to do with the new forehand other than its making of me more competitive.

    What happened has nothing to do with whether the new shot is excellent or very good or good.

    I love the way the quick half mondo-producing roll with elbow in one place melds into slower roll as the elbow goes out.

    Using this shot, I hit the outside line of the crosscourt alley for full pace clean winners a number of times and certainly will have good motivation to heal.
    Last edited by bottle; 08-20-2016, 08:22 AM.

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  • bottle
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    Review

    A very functional forehand, maybe the best I can hit. Unfortunately, however, at 40-love for us I got a short high sitter for a power volley-swat in the right alley and missed the wide open court and pulled up lame with a high right calf sprain that will keep me from playing tennis for at least a week.
    Last edited by bottle; 08-20-2016, 11:23 AM.

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  • bottle
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    Best Cue for Preceding Material

    Does levelness of hand travel cause the arm roll or vice-versa or both?

    Both, obviously, but let the arm roll cause the levelness for best cue.

    Am leaving for doubles now.

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  • bottle
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    New Forehand

    The previous forehand worked for one hour of competition before disintegration-- not good enough. I now propose an almost straight back backswing in which hand moves parallel with court but forearm does not. (The forearm instead points slightly down. The essential design feature here is a three-quarter length arm.) Forearm slightly pointing down plus hand moving parallel to the court create the effect of a moving caliper.

    Also proposed: straight wrist through this process permitting the wrist to mondo through the keying of forearm forward which comes next.

    There shall be no aeronautical banking in the performance of this particular forehand. That is saved for McEnrueful which in my view is an all body shot.

    Let me be clear the speaker said before emitting a cloud of ink revealing a political squid.

    I don't want that. But understand, reader, that the strings open backward and close forward within this plan.

    Okay, I'm picking up a racket. The minimal arm work of this backswing accomplishes one half of a normal mondo-- the rolling down of forearm.

    So that the other half-- layback of wrist-- now occurring as one cranks racket tip forward tries to go downward since the forearm already has rolled back.

    This is all the loop that anybody should need. Or is it a loop at all since forearm rolling forward should cancel out wrist laying backward?

    Rolling the racket forward now becomes easy.

    And release of the held back elbow happens next.

    As I mime this indoors (but with an actual racket) I see arm roll blending into elbow release more seamlessly with the feel of a huge pingpong slam.

    Some roll of the racket even during contact now becomes possible to maintain constant pitch without destroying the freedom of the stroke.
    Last edited by bottle; 08-20-2016, 11:23 AM.

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  • bottle
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    Design Feature in Bam Forehand

    Banking down of hitting shoulder occurs after hitting step with right-hander's left foot just as in a McEnrueful.

    This banking takes place in tandem with forward hips rotation. Unlike a McEnrueful where arm and body then perform as a single piece however, one uses all kinds of forward arm and backward wrist additive along with a strong eastern rather than composite grip.

    Do you think, reader, that one could convey this instruction to oneself or anybody else through photography, cinematography or natural science illustration?

    Ha!
    Last edited by bottle; 08-18-2016, 10:30 AM.

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  • bottle
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    Divvy-Divvy: Aeronautical Banking This Time

    I put the lowering of an imaginary Maule's right wing with downward section of a forehand loop.

    This frees the wing to bank upward during body-and-elbow push.

    The Maule is a small plane good for quick landings and quick take-offs.

    Arthur Ashe maybe had some sort of similar action in mind when he spoke of a theoretical forehand in which one lands on the court on one's right (hitting) shoulder.

    But this scheme all sounds too neat. Should downward section of the forehand loop be classified in the 1 of 1-2 rhythm? No, downward section is part of the 2, i.e., is part of the unified hit.

    Backswing then, to go back to beginning of the stroke, must immediately raise the racket tip. We should perhaps re-define the word "loop" only to refer to the phenomenon of backswing.

    This no doubt is difficult, complex and confusing thought but we are more interested in the new forehand being born here than in English expression.

    In fact there is loop in the backswing and loop in the foreswing but who cares about fact when one's mental health is involved? For sanity's sake just lift the racket tip like Roger Federer while squeezing elbow closed a bit and call that the 1 of 1-2 rhythm. Unless you want to add a bit of excess backward body turn which almost could suggest the existence of a transition.

    Now comes the 2 of 1-2 rhythm with all of the subsequent: The arm straightens to 3/4 length. The forearm bats down and around. Since the elbow momentarily stays back the strings have to close from wherever they were. Then and only then the elbow releases for its big push defined in the single word-sound BAM!
    Last edited by bottle; 08-18-2016, 09:55 AM.

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  • bottle
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    An Important Distinction

    What I do on a tennis court and on a concept board (or in my case a clipboard from having been a reporter) are two different things.

    Like any tennis player, I want to do well, so I never bring more than one or two new concepts with me out on the court.

    Right now however I am indoors writing in longhand on my clipboard.

    And foresee a return to earlier experiments where there was more of a pause than a slow-down occurring at some point in a loop.

    With this pause occurring at a high point that isn't very high established through leading with bent elbow.

    The latest forehand experiment included double elbow movement within a loop and no doubt I will return to that.

    For now however I want to keep elbow back and in one spot while I wind forearm around and down.

    Why? Two reasons. 1) Great for a lob. 2) Hit a couple of these moderately fast forehands without thinking today and they were sweet what with their late elbow push producing poptop.

    "John, you had a lot of spin on that one."

    (Thank you for saying that, partner.)
    Last edited by bottle; 08-17-2016, 01:47 PM.

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  • bottle
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    Aunty Wonk: Free the Elbow

    Bump it up, bump it down (loop) then let both fulcrums (body and arm) go.

    Per usual, the new shot, whatever it is, produced/duces about one spectacular winner in a two-hour session. What really were good were a series of PetraKordians when I remembered my tip for them to "splay splay all day" including a passing shot ripped up the alley.

    And that is a difficulty in evaluating new strokes. Exactly when is the excellence of them, if excellence there be, going to kick in? Fourth session of competitive play? Difficult to predict.

    I will say this though. When a new shot begins to work, you know. The danger then for somebody like me is that I may become bored, thinking I can do better, and next invent something else which half the time won't be as good.
    Last edited by bottle; 08-17-2016, 12:49 PM.

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  • bottle
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    Horizontal vs. Vertical Forehand Development

    Many of my attempts to explore new ways of hitting forehands lead to horizontal development, i.e., the new shot is neither better nor worse than the old one.

    I'm sure that few players would accept my definition of "a new shot" since any small tweak can be regarded as just that.

    But me, I want to regard any tweak as part of an overhaul, viz., one part of overall cycle including preparation, hit and followthrough with everything affecting everything else. I get this total cycle idea from the late gold medal Olympic oarsman and rowing coach at the U.S. Coast Guard Academy New London Connecticut, Bill Stowe.

    Like any curious player learning forehand in the era of Ivan Lendl, I experimented with hurling my elbow around.

    What if-- now-- one tries leading or throwing the elbow in two directions but only a distance of an inch or two.

    Thus the rising elbow can coincide with added wrist closing in the backswing and therefore more relaxed mondo to complete a loop.

    Before aggressive forward body turn combined with the most aggressive forward elbow thrust possible.

    I then foresee these binary options opening up: 1) severe poptop in which the arm plies around the body but doesn't twist/wipe and 2) severe windshield wipe combined with elbow smoothly rather than roughly moving out.
    Last edited by bottle; 08-17-2016, 01:05 PM.

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  • bottle
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    The Tennis House and The Grosse Pointe Carousel

    The Tennis House, an ornate round-roof structure, was built by the Fords four score and seven years ago.

    Its membership of more than a hundred players has dwindled to less than fifty.

    At the Grosse Pointe Farms Michigan City Council hearing last night, the question arose of which local citizens should most be heard from although everybody was invited to speak.

    The closest structure to The Tennis House is owned by Hope, my partner Hope, who isn't Hope Solo.

    She didn't speak but I did, bringing up among other fears the question of real and imaginary balconies.

    Will the balconies the architects plan to hang on the huge structure afford an unwanted view into the backyards of us and our neighbor Phil?

    No, the balconies will point inward, not outward, and lush foliage and other structure will shield our yard.

    In every other place I've lived I've opposed the developers but rather like these ones.

    The high end snowbirds they plan to attract to their new super-small condominiums won't have children and will hardly add to the automotive flow.

    I have played on the one Har-Tru court inside of The Tennis House and loved the experience, I explained, but now those days are past. If the membership including many onepercenters was sufficiently motivated to pool their resources to purchase the facility and keep the court going, they would have done so long ago.

    One young man, probably a Trump supporter, expressed deep grief if tennis in The Tennis House was about to end since he, a working stiff, greatly enjoyed playing with and against the one per cent.

    But I get to do that three times a week as a member of the Grosse Pointe Senior Men's Tennis Association (annual dues, $10).

    Not all the players are millionaires but more than one percent of them are.

    They have a thing called a "carousel" which looks like a Hotchkiss machine gun from the Civil War with a plethora of different barrels aimed at the sky.

    You stick the butt of your racket in one of the barrels. Your time is soon.

    "Player on number six," comes the cry. You limp out to court number six and immediately serve.

    This happens Monday, Wednesday and Friday. The place of it is the outdoor courts of The Grosse Pointe Neighborhood Club and Liggett University private school, then Wimbledon indoor facility through the rest of the year.

    The carousel plus Wimbledon plus East Side, Indian Village and all the other private clubs in the area have longsince supplanted The Tennis House. Besides, who wants a huge soccer emporium or 15 clacking bowling alleys close next door.
    Last edited by bottle; 08-17-2016, 12:40 PM.

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  • bottle
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    Divvy Divvy in 1-2 Rhythm

    The other day I went to Grosse Pointe Academy in order to self-feed. All the best juniors associated with the teaching staff at East Side Tennis were present but there seemed to be an open court so I asked if I could take it.

    No, some of the kids were just having a rest. In half an hour all the courts would be free. So I sat down with my old friend Michelle Snyder, who won with me when she played her first game of doubles. Wyatt Snyder, the 10-year-old son of her and Jake of Jake's Cranes in Windsor, Ontario, is a kind of prodigy, i.e., has a howitzer of a forehand mostly taught to him I believe by my friend Sebastien Foka of Wayne State and France.

    Sebastien was on the other side of the net and observed to Wyatt, "You keep breaking me." That would be good accomplishment in that Sebastien has the best singles record ever at Wayne State.

    So I became happy just to watch, not only to sit next to Michelle, but to study Wyatt's 1-2 rhythm.

    Sebastien has worked with Wyatt for a number of years.

    Wyatt loops. There is a pause at the bottom. Then Wyatt hits the crap out of the ball-- an ungodly potent forehand.

    Pause at the bottom? Well, I could have that even though I have forehands where the pause or slow-down occurs at the top.

    I see a bit of Steve Johnson turn-under of the racket as elbow rises up. The elbow always will be turning, in other words, rather than be already turned. Turning of the elbow will blend with rising of the elbow will blend with falling of the elbow will blend with mondo to form a slight pause at the bottom.

    Everything else-- turn, footwork, etc. will adjust to this small loop. The mondo will already be done when I hit the fuck out of the ball.
    Last edited by bottle; 08-14-2016, 06:05 AM.

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  • bottle
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    Splay, Splay-- Splay All Day

    Am talking about imitation Petr Korda backhands, i.e., PetraKordians.

    One wants the shoulders to continue turning backward as one steps out to hit the ball because one read in a tennis book somewhere that that is beautiful.

    On the other hand, if one is still swinging backward at such a late date, when if ever will one's energy shift properly forward?

    The answer may lie in compromise, i.e., change direction of the angular momentum at the end of the hitting step just before the front foot makes contact with the court.

    We western human beings tend to be inflexible in thinking that something must always be this or that but never this-and-that.

    So we splay with prop foot-- hooray-- we join the Christian cult of good unit turn.

    But what is good for the goose is good for the gander, so now we splay with the other foot-- hooray again.

    Splaying foot to prepare aids ease and amount of backward hips turn.

    Splaying foot at end of step-out aids ease and amount of forward hips turn.
    Last edited by bottle; 08-13-2016, 03:09 AM.

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  • stotty
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    Originally posted by bottle View Post
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    Ayesha, daughter of Holyhobo in India, tried to do this, and was fully filmed for an issue of TennisPlayer.

    But we haven't heard from either Ayesha or Holyhobo in a long while. How is Ayesha doing? Did she make changes? Did they work out? Have you won any tournaments recently, Ayesha?

    My theory is that exposure of this nature on TennisPlayer or even YouTube is a big trauma-- amusing for sure but with possible dire consequence. How about Naomi Totka and her "sick kick?" Did she fade into oblivion?
    Interesting...

    I have uploaded a number of students in the past. How are they faring? Were they/I able to implement the changes recommended by others in the forum? These are the questions that count. Revisiting is perhaps the most important part of all.

    You are right, bottle. It's a trauma and there is much on the line?

    I am more than happy to put my students back up on Youtube a year or two later down the line. Of course you won't see all the prescribed changes and they won't look like players from a Tennisplayer textbook. Coaching just isn't like that. It's not that I am no good or my students don't listen. The reality is I only see most students only once a week. The even greater reality is that even if I saw my students every day, their strokes still maybe nowhere near what I set out to achieve.

    10splayer and I came to the conclusion a while back that, in most cases, the best you can hope for is to help students hit the right checkpoints in a stroke and see what develops. Coaches cannot govern everything....not possible. And why would they want to?

    It's is a bit like raising children. You do as much as you to make them the best you can but in the end they will also become themselves no matter what.

    The bottom line with someone like Ayesha or any child is some changes will stick and look all right and some won't. It's really as simple as that.

    Coaching is tough to quantify. It probably only accounts for 10 or 20 percent of a players development, although it can of course be a very crucial 10 or 20 precent. You see, the student brings much to the table that the coach has no control of: degree of natural talent, height, physique, IQ, degree of natural athletic ability...the list goes on. A coach can only work with what he is given to work with.

    Many coaches will count their worth by showing you their best students. I say show me your worst and I will judge you on that.
    Last edited by stotty; 08-11-2016, 07:40 AM.

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  • bottle
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    Roger Federer's Forehand Needs Editing Before You Or I Try It

    When Roger Federer said, "There should only be one Roger Federer," he wasn't referring only to Baby Fed (Grigor Dimitrov).

    Lots of tour players now lead backswing with their elbow more like Ivan Lendl.

    Roger-- he lifts the racket tip first then closes his strings almost on the way down. He has done this so many millions of times that he is very quick and smooth with it.

    Ayesha, daughter of Holyhobo in India, tried to do this, and was fully filmed for an issue of TennisPlayer.

    But we haven't heard from either Ayesha or Holyhobo in a long while. How is Ayesha doing? Did she make changes? Did they work out? Have you won any tournaments recently, Ayesha?

    My theory is that exposure of this nature on TennisPlayer or even YouTube is a big trauma-- amusing for sure but with possible dire consequence. How about Naomi Totka and her "sick kick?" Did she fade into oblivion?

    How are your games doing right now, zchpcu, klacr? Won any tournaments? Played doubles together?

    I'm thinking about Roger's forehand return of serve as well as his staple forehand. If you lead with elbow then straighten it to side rather than down, reader, you can next use Nick Wheatley's 1-2 rhythm but with subtle mental alteration.

    For normal Federfore, the 1 of the rhythm can take elbow up. For service return Federfore, the 1 of the rhythm can include elbow turning up but also straightening of the arm out toward side fence. How we divvy up the actions of 1 and 2 is everything.

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  • bottle
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    Hip Focus in a PetraKordian

    How can a tennis player be too knowledgeable about what he wants his hips to do in a one hand backhand?

    I would argue and have that the hips function as described in TENNIS FOR THE FUTURE and that used by Petr Korda hitting with his son (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqpARpkF8WA) are different with Korda keeping his head more over the hips.

    No less a player than Vic Seixas suggested that Vic Braden's backhand was a great one although Vic S disparaged the rest of Vic B's game.

    My friend Harry Constant however played Vic B in college and thought that all of Vic B's game was great. "We didn't even know what topspin was," Harry said.

    To go more along the perceived Korda route, let's structure a one hander on two items: 1) hips turn to straighten and roll arm; 2) hips stop turning but continue toward net as front leg pushes up.

    The provocative nature of this shot may become more apparent as one continues to try it.

    Arm and hips take strings to the ball. Body, not arm, hits the ball. Followthrough is with the arm, not the body, after the ball is gone.

    P.S. Happiness is a big screen and a new computer when watching the above video.
    Last edited by bottle; 08-10-2016, 03:33 AM.

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