Murray's forehand-technically ugly?

[lukman41985]

Aesthetics has to do do with efficient form. so it should be talked about.

I see, so your eye picks out what's efficient and labels it pretty? How about something more objective, like what the damn ball is doing?!

[jeffreycounts]

I have studied Murray's forehand quite extensively, and while it is not the flashiest forehand, his fundamentals are outstanding. Excellent torso rotation into and through the hit. Full wiper motion from contact on. Not a big backswing which helps with consistency and return of serve. It's not going to win him a lot of free points, but I think it's an excellent example of the double bend, wiper forehand to study and model.

Also, I think brett701 is right on about the similarity to Blake's minor wrist layback. Another reason for me to believe Murray would be less prone to timing errors off his forehand.

The forehand I like least (in terms of aesthetics) ... Gasquet. I also never liked the look of Courier's forehand.

[btca_national]

Murray Forehand

A little comparison...

[uspta146749877]

How do I see these images?

A little comparison...

I cannot see these images-I tried to click the names of attached files
but I got nowhere

[brett701]

I have studied Murray's forehand quite extensively, and while it is not the flashiest forehand, his fundamentals are outstanding. Excellent torso rotation into and through the hit. Full wiper motion from contact on. Not a big backswing which helps with consistency and return of serve. It's not going to win him a lot of free points, but I think it's an excellent example of the double bend, wiper forehand to study and model.

Also, I think brett701 is right on about the similarity to Blake's minor wrist layback. Another reason for me to believe Murray would be less prone to timing errors off his forehand.

The forehand I like least (in terms of aesthetics) ... Gasquet. I also never liked the look of Courier's forehand.

jeffrey, im interested as to why you believe his timing would be improved with less of a wrist layback? and do you agree with this style?

And yes, i do believe he really has the fundamentals of the forehand applied very well.

[brett701]

I see, so your eye picks out what's efficient and labels it pretty? How about something more objective, like what the damn ball is doing?!

i never said pretty is efficient and i never said ugly is inefficient. Why have you came to this conclusion?

[uspta146749877]

A post by btca_national

jeffrey, im interested as to why you believe his timing would be improved with less of a wrist layback? and do you agree with this style?

And yes, i do believe he really has the fundamentals of the forehand applied very well.

Are u able to see files attached by btca_national?
See above

[btca_national]

If the pictures didn't work hopefully the video will

[uspta146749877]

Technical problems

If the pictures didn't work hopefully the video will

I have problems seeing this one as well
It says that I do NOT have enough privileges
when clicking the name.
Probably an administrator could help here.
PS It works with other posts
btca_national,
Is your file from the Tennsplayer archive?

[brett701]

I have problems seeing this one as well
It says that I do NOT have enough privileges
when clicking the name.
Probably an administrator could help here.
PS It works with other posts
btca_national,
Is your file from the Tennsplayer archive?

i can see the video.

[brett701]

A little comparison...

nice pics. Thats good wrist back i would say. Im curious as to whether or not that is his typical shot. I think a lot of the visible stiffness may not actually be lack of wrist layback, but potentially bc/ he has a very small backswing? I'm not sure, just trying to brainstorm ideas.

[uspta146749877]

It does NOT help me much

i can see the video.

It does NOT help me much

[brett701]

It does NOT help me much

www.youtube.com then search murrays forehand.

[stickman]

is it ugly or is it federer?

when you look not at the stroke but at the way the racket head goes through the ball and turns over is't very similar to the fed only by eleminating the amount of rist lay back he dosent have the ability to keep it on edge and really drive through it. which is why he stands 5 feet behind the baseline and "clown's around!" i think thats what federer said is in it?

[johnyandell]

But guys look how far his hand goes back behind his leg and torso--not too many of the men if any does this.