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  • Open stance for backhand

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    a tip of the week.
    Any comments?

  • #2
    Originally posted by uspta146749877 View Post
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    a tip of the week.
    Any comments?
    looks pretty reasonable from the classic point of view.
    It is an approach that will fit into a lot of players style.

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    • #3
      Hate the outside foot forward

      Originally posted by uspta146749877 View Post
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      I just hate that open-stance outside foot forward... on forehand as well as backhand. I like everything else Porter was saying in this tip. I realize you need the power from the left side, but you can still get that with an open stance if you load into the left leg and hip. How do you turn through the ball if the left foot is already forward. I realize you sometimes have to do it, but I certainly wouldn't choose to as a first choice.
      don

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      • #4
        Originally posted by uspta990770809 View Post
        I just hate that open-stance outside foot forward... on forehand as well as backhand. I like everything else Porter was saying in this tip. I realize you need the power from the left side, but you can still get that with an open stance if you load into the left leg and hip. How do you turn through the ball if the left foot is already forward. I realize you sometimes have to do it, but I certainly wouldn't choose to as a first choice.
        don
        But is it still as much forward??
        remember, he is saying when pulled very wide only,
        in which case the court has now been changed.

        where is that foot relative to reception of the shot and
        relative to the target?

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        • #5
          Contact point

          I couldn't access the website to see the open stance backhand tips. A question I'd like answered is this:

          On a open stance backhand where should the contact point be?

          1 Alongside the body

          2 Just in front of the body

          3.Just behind the hip

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          • #6
            Where oh where is the contact point?!

            Originally posted by airforce1 View Post
            But is it still as much forward??
            remember, he is saying when pulled very wide only,
            in which case the court has now been changed.

            where is that foot relative to reception of the shot and
            relative to the target?
            Good point, Air Force. But looking at the video, Porter is even in front of the imaginary line that is as much as 30 degrees off the baseline or the net.

            And, Stotty, I think, whether you hit an open stance or square stance 2-hander, you still want to turn the shoulders and load accordingly, even if the feet don't make it around in the square stance; then you want to turn the hips and shoulders into the shot and hit the ball just off the front hip. In the case of the open stance the back hip is now even with the front hip. In the closed stance, there should be enough hip turn to bring the back hip forward almost to the front hip. And with the two-hander, the player has the luxury of still being able to generate significant power even if the ball is a little past that front hip. For a righty 2-hander, it's not as far in front as a lefty forehand would be. And where the lefty forehand would become a reverse forehand, the 2-hander can still get a lot on the ball with a relatively decent finish, but I could be dead wrong on this one. I don't have the video. I just can't remember any reverse finishes on 2-handed backhands.

            don

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            • #7
              Access to a tip of the week of uspta.org

              Originally posted by tcuk View Post
              I couldn't access the website to see the open stance backhand tips. A question I'd like answered is this:

              On a open stance backhand where should the contact point be?

              1 Alongside the body

              2 Just in front of the body

              3.Just behind the hip
              Hi,
              I have sent an E-mail to kathy.buchanan@uspta,org
              see below
              I will provide you with her response.
              BTW: a tip of the week is kept overthere only less than a week.
              A copy is available but only in the area available
              to uspta members or/and a paid basis
              --->
              Hi,

              could you be so kind to let me know

              what are software requirements on my end to see succesfully a tip of the week

              yours sincerely,

              julian mielniczuk usptapro 27873

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              • #8
                There are three parts of your question

                Originally posted by tcuk View Post
                I couldn't access the website to see the open stance backhand tips. A question I'd like answered is this:

                On a open stance backhand where should the contact point be?

                1 Alongside the body

                2 Just in front of the body

                3.Just behind the hip
                There are three parts of your question:
                a.a contact point for a single handed backhand
                b.a contact point for a double handed backhand with a closed or neutral stance
                c.a contact point for a double handed backhand with a closed stance

                Please specify which you are interested in

                A link


                could be of some interest to you,especially a subchapter entitled
                "The Four Contact Points"


                If you use a search engine with the string "contact point"+"backhand"
                you will get 20 references of articles at this site,
                The link provided above is one of those twenty

                julian mielniczuk
                usptapro 27873
                Courtside Tennis Club,Bedford,MA

                juliantennis@comcast.net
                Last edited by uspta146749877; 08-20-2009, 06:47 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by uspta990770809 View Post
                  Good point, Air Force. But looking at the video, Porter is even in front of the imaginary line that is as much as 30 degrees off the baseline or the net.

                  don
                  So I understand you agree that this means, while he is still open is his stance, it may not be near as much as it might appear to some?

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                  • #10
                    The angle of the shot to the court matters

                    Originally posted by airforce1 View Post
                    So I understand you agree that this means, while he is still open is his stance, it may not be near as much as it might appear to some?
                    Absolutely. But I basically don't accept Porter's assertion that the left hip and shoulder can't apply any power if they are back. You have to load them, but that's basically what you do in a square stance shot. Your power comes through the core from the rear leg in the turn into the shot.
                    don

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tcuk View Post
                      I couldn't access the website to see the open stance backhand tips. A question I'd like answered is this:

                      On a open stance backhand where should the contact point be?

                      1 Alongside the body

                      2 Just in front of the body

                      3.Just behind the hip
                      Response from uspta
                      Dear Julian,

                      Make sure you have the current version of Flash installed. It can be found here http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer .

                      If we may be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

                      Sincerely,

                      Julie Myers
                      Creative Services Director
                      United States Professional Tennis Association Inc.
                      3535 Briarpark Drive, Suite One
                      Houston, TX 77042
                      713-978-7782

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the link, uspta146749877.

                        It's quite an extensive website Tennisplayer.net. I hadn't come across this article before.

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